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The Secret Airships That Could Go 200 mph and Other Aviation Conspiracies

BY d1nkg
September 9, 2025
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The Joe Rogan Experience Discussion Summary

Key Points

Pre-Civil War Aircraft Claims

  • Crafts Before Civil War: Discussion on alleged aircraft capable of speeds up to 200 mph before 1865.
  • Sources and Expertise: Joseph P. Ferrell is mentioned, specializing in hidden history, particularly religion.

Historical Context

  • Orville and Wilbur Wright: The Wright brothers first flew in 1903, postdating these claims.
  • Civil War Era Technology: References to Southern use of helicopters; Northern collaboration with German scientists.

Unverified Claims and Conventions

  • Drawings and Records: Mention of drawings and anecdotal claims without verifiable evidence.
  • Discussion on UFOs: Conjecture on whether sightings are government-engineered crafts or extraterrestrial technology.

Alternative History Theories

  • Multiple Civilizations: The idea that civilizations reset repeatedly through history.
  • German Influence: Germany's financial support to the North during the Civil War.

Anti-Gravity and Advanced Technology

  • NB Gas and Sonora Arrow Club: Discussion on claimed anti-gravity technology and historical aviation clubs.
  • Perspectives on Modern Technology: Speculation on what technological advancements could have derived from historical innovations.

Conspiracy Theories and Skepticism

  • Government Secrecy: Narrative around keeping advancements in anti-gravity or UFO technology secret.
  • Media Influence: The role of media in shaping public perception of fear (e.g., Jaws) and conspiracy theories.

Cultural and Social Aspects

  • Historical Rumors: Brief mention of Abraham Lincoln and others involved in rumors concerning personal matters.
  • Intrigue and Fascination: Ongoing curiosity about historical aviation, anti-gravity fuels, and government interactions with extraterrestrial entities.

Final Thoughts

  • Skepticism: The tension between believing in advanced technology or viewing it as gaslighting and propaganda.
  • Secrecy and Discipline: Emphasis on the tight-lipped nature of government and military personnel regarding sensitive projects.